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HP May Accidentally Kill Black Duck & Palamida

Palamida and Black Duck may cry in their beer when this gets out and about

See, HP is open sourcing widgetry very much like theirs, widgetry that it developed for itself over the last seven years at the cost of "millions of dollars," it says, and 60 man-years work that sorts out the various licenses that govern open source software - imagine, there are 1,700 licenses in OpenOffice alone - and lets you know if said licenses have been tinkered with in any way.

It calls it FOSSology and has made it available at FOSSology.org under the GPLv2.

It's designed, it says, to address the acquisition, tracking and licensing of FOSS. It can detect code reuse and provenance even if the code has been changed.

HP uses as an example the real-life case of the company that thought the FOSS software it had in-house contained 25 licenses when in fact it was 75 and had to choose between implementing governance policies that covered all of them or replacing the software at an estimated cost of $80 million.

Black Duck executive VP Bill McQuade says FOSSology is nice and everything but it uses string search and doesn't find all the hidden code if, say, the copyrights have been removed. Black Duck, which has built its widgetry for large commercial accounts, uses code printing and marketing, which compares actual lines. It also claims to be more scalable.

HP, which has claimed Linux sales leadership for the last nine years and has guided a lot of companies through the proverbial minefield, is also open sourcing its FOSS best practices, forming in the process a Linux Foundation working group called the FOSSBazaar composed of Google, Novell, Coverity, OpenLogic, Olliance, Sourceforge and DLA Piper, the law firm.

FOSSBazaar is pledged to offer online resources, educational documentation and community interaction - whatever that all means - to address FOSS business issues and promote FOSS best governance practices.

HP has kicked in its Open Source Health Check, which takes a snapshot of current FOSS use with FOSSology and then helps analyze FOSS management, making recommendations as it goes and tallying the total cost of ownership benefits of moving to FOSS.

HP expects its governance contributions will make the enterprise less risk-averse about using free and open source software and so tickle its revenues.

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Kirstan Vandersluis 01/28/08 10:32:44 AM EST

HP and its FOSSology initiative further legitimizes open source use for the large corporation. This is good news for Black Duck and Palamida, as they depend on open source adoption for market growth. Their business model must evolve, though, just as any commercial vendor must change in the face of open source competition. FOSSology will pressure down their software price. They'll need to compensate with increased consulting and support. I think they should integrate FOSSology as well, making it one step in a more comprehensive source code scrub. There is always room for more thorough and easier to use product.

It wouldn't surprise me if one of these companies goes open source soon, since their model must move in that direction anyway.

Gunga Din 01/26/08 03:39:32 PM EST

This is a nasty headline and article by some anonymous writer. SysCon should be ashamed to publish this kind of linkbait.

Melisa Bleasdale 01/25/08 03:33:03 PM EST

In reference to this post, we'd invite people to view our actual response to the FOSSology announcement on our blog at http://www.palamida.com/blog.

The headline is a bit of stretch as Palamida views HP's initiative as a positive addition to the robust ecosystem of open source, and feel that there is definitely room for more solutions and resources in this area.

Palamida will continue to focus on bringing solutions to market to vet both the integrity and security of open source and accelerating its growth and adoption in the enterprise environment.

--Melisa LaBancz-Bleasdale

HP News Desk 01/25/08 09:36:36 AM EST

It calls it FOSSology and has made it available at FOSSology.org under the GPLv2. It's designed, it says, to address the acquisition, tracking and licensing of FOSS. It can detect code reuse and provenance even if the code has been changed.

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